Two great founders talk about Omopa -- inventors of unique puzzles
In nikoli.com, we began a new puzzle, Shakashaka, in June 2012. Here today we have Guten a very familiar author who created this puzzle. And we also have HIRO FUKUSHIMA who thought up the Heyawake rules that made it a popular puzzle in nikoli.com. Both Shakashaka and Heyawake came out of the Omopa pages of Puzzle Communication Nikoli. We will talk about Omopa today. From Nikoli we have NyanBaz and Nob.
NyanBazToday, we have invited two creators of puzzles which started out in Omopa.
NobAnother common point is that when they were published in the Omopa pages, and both were in the final form from the beginning.
NyanBazThe Omopa pages are where everyone can propose an idea, and make or improve new puzzles. It often happens that several people's ideas get used till a puzzle is complete. How did you hit on Heyawake?
NyanBazHow did you hit on Shakashaka?
NobWas it completed immediately after you settled on the white squares?
NyanBazWell. In fact, with Heyawake, the part with putting black cells into the rooms was the beginning. I really feel that the way of thinking for both is so similar.
NobIt is a wonderful rule you hit on there. Just great.
NobBut, all Shakashaka elements are new except the numbers like in Akari.
NyanBazThe result was that it was a success. Shakashaka became popular, so much so that problems were put on nikoli.com. How do you think about that as the one who set it off?
NobThere is this idea that what is difficult by logic may be overcome by intuition. It resembles Shikaku in that.
NyanBazWell, that may be so.
NobYou have me thinking now. It resembles intuition, but it's different.
NobI guess you are thinking about this rule "lines make a right-angled turn on at least one side of the white circle cell". That is a brilliant rule.
NyanBazThe attractive part that has me interested is the "at least one side."
NyanBazHow did you get the idea for the white circle rule?
NyanBazWell there is that possibility. Are there many who make Omopa from parts they see there?
NobIt's quite something to make a new puzzle from nothing. It's easier to come up with some adaptation for a better puzzle. The Omopa pages want many people to participate.
NyanBazLet's talk about you two guys. HIRO said that Guten was a favorite author in the interview.
NyanBazAnd how do you think about HIRO, Guten?
NyanBazWell. How do you think about the Omopa page? Both of you.
NyanBazWell. Trust us to think deeply about that. It's an ideal page that is beneficial to the future and to make today pleasant. Thank you for today.
Discussion on Jun 2012 Published on Apr 15, 2015